Welcome to the twenty-fourth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week or so to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed to email@example.com. Check for other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!
This month’s Banter topic comes to us from the ever helpful Eelis Kiy, capsuleer behind the “Where the frack is my ship” blog. She asks: How does your real life personality compare to who you are as a character in EVE? Does a good leader of people in the real world make a good leader of pilots in game? Or vice-versa? Do your real-life skills help you with the roles you fulfill in your corporation or alliance? Or do you behave completely differently? Does the anonymity of the Internet allow you to thrive on the tears of others in New Eden whilst you work as a good Samaritan away from your keyboard? Or are you as mean outside of your pod as you are inside it? Have experiences in EVE Online affected your behavior, skills or attitudes outside of the game?
Better late than never? At least its in the right calendar month this time!
An odd one this month. I wanted to do last month’s but I was crazy busy, so I ended up skipping it. I’ll have to warble about Incarna in my own time I guess.
My real life persona is probably comparable to that of my characters. ICly of course its a bit different, with one being a bit more serious than me, and one being a quite a lot less serious. This distinction was a conscious effort by myself to disassociate each of the characters. On the one hand there was serious Roleplay politics to be getting on with on Adrielle, but there was mostly faffing about not frivolousness to do on Kalahari. Keeping the two separate meant that when I wanted to unwind, I could do so without fear of being directly harassed about something much more ‘srs bzns’.
I began by stating that Kalahari was a housemate – something which was previously true in fact: I inherited the character in the middle of 2004, when she stopped being interested in EVE. Its a strange thing, because I would not say I am a compulsive liar at all, but for this, apparently I was.
Further down the line, I relinquished the whole political shenanigans thing, and subsequently, the need to keep them both separate was no longer required. I stopped trying so hard with both of them, and if anyone asked I would say who my ‘alt’ was with no qualms about it. I still don’t go proclaiming it out loud in game though. I don’t really see the point of doing so, do you?
The interesting thing though, is that even OOC, unless you’ve known me for a while, you’d be forgiven for thinking they were two different people. In fact, some people have been very surprised to hear otherwise…
Nainana > btw are kalahari and Adrielle the same person ?
Adrielle Firewalker > yes
Nainana > oh, i always thought you were 2 different ones
I don’t know what the compulsion is. Whether I’m a little bit in-character all the time, or what, but that above quote is not exactly uncommon.
But I guess it just highlights my point. I’m more like Adrielle than Kalahari, even after all these years of not trying to keep them separate.
So, the actual questions, eh? That would be good I think, having successfully sent anyone reading this to sleep with my inane blathering!
How does your real life personality compare to who you are as a character in EVE?
I’m not really sure. I’m a lot more playful in-game than out though, I know that much. I also find it much easier to connect and chat with people in the game than I do out of it, which is part of why I’ve stuck around for so long; I meet new and interesting people that I like all the time. I think in the real world I haven’t seen much of a need to meet new people. If I meet people at work, great; if not, it doesn’t really bother me. I’m not going to quit life like I would quit Eve if there were no more interesting people in it. 😛
Does a good leader of people in the real world make a good leader of pilots in game? Or vice-versa?
No idea. I’ve never had much of a chance to apply skills I used in-game with the alliance-leading stuff to real life. I honestly can’t remember if I was a good leader or not either; it has been too long and I don’t feel adequately qualified to make the judgement anyway.
I have had supervisory and leadership roles in the past, but they were on such a smaller scale (usually just over a few people, rather than a few hundred), that I don’t think its fair to compare. I’d never had much in the way of complaints from those under me though: Usually only the people above me complaining about stuff. Gotta love middle-management!
Do your real-life skills help you with the roles you fulfil in your corporation or alliance? Or do you behave completely differently?
Web stuff to industrial crazycakes? I think a logical, orderly approach to industry helps a lot, but its a tenuous link at best.
I was really into games development for a long time, and I do love puzzles and optimisation processes (yah, I know; nerrrrd), which helps a lot with maximizing the isk:effort ratio and getting all the industrial stuff as streamlined as possible. Thankfully there’s enough variables involves with that that it’ll keep me busy for a long time yet.
Does the anonymity of the Internet allow you to thrive on the tears of others in New Eden whilst you work as a good Samaritan away from your keyboard? Or are you as mean outside of your pod as you are inside it?
I’m not mean inside my pod. Hopefully others can attest to this. I do come up with huge, crazy plans that could be considered evil, but they are always too big for me to bother with, and the potential gain for me, or my corporation is not worth the effort. Plus, y’know, I actually enjoy being nice. 🙂
Have experiences in EVE Online affected your behaviour, skills or attitudes outside of the game?
The industrial optimisation stuff has certainly helped with my OCD. And by helped, I mean made it worse. You’ll notice that I changed all the US spelled words in the questions to UK spelling.
I think Eve teaches patience. For a game for which small-scale combat principally comprises of 30 seconds pewpew after potentially hours of waiting and organising a fleet, I think patience is key. Mass industrial stuff is much the same. Money that I invest into production today I don’t see the profits for until three months down the line, purely because of how I run the business. Shorter cycles would mean I could recruit more people and not worry so much about peeps cancelling my jobs, but would also more than double the time it would take to make the same amount of ISK.
Its interesting in a way, because the more sociable I become in the game, the less sociable I become out of it. Its a very slow and gradual process, and something I can only really look at in detail after having played for years and years, which thankfully I have. The psychology of social interactivity and how it reflects and affects people outside of the game is something that really fascinates me. If I could get sponsorship to write something along those lines for a doctorate, I would take it!
I don’t think Eve has affected my attitudes outside of the game. I don’t really consider myself to be more or less tolerant of other opinions and ideas than when I started playing. If I do, its more from realising adulthood than because of a videogame I’ve played a lot. I could be wrong, and its possible that given I’ve been playing for such a long time, that Eve has had a small, gradual push or pull on my attitudes over time, but its certainly not as noticable as behaviour or skills.
List of participants:
- EVE Blog Banter #24: Be, all that you can be, and so much more!
- BB24:RL + EVE = | A Mule In EvE
- Freebooted: BB 24: You Talking to Me?
- where the frack is my ship?: Blog Banter 24: Behind the keyboard
- (OOC) CK’s Blog Banter #24: I Am Prano. « Prano’s Journey
- mikeazariah » Blog Archive » BB24 Who are you, who hoo woo hoo
- Drifting: The 24th EVE Blog Banter (January 2011 Edition) – Topic: EVE and Real Life
- Victoria Aut Mors » Blog Archive » Eve Blog Banter #24 – Where Eve Meets Real Life
- Who is more real?? « The Durzo Chronicles
- Captain Serenity: blog banter #24 – Personalities
- Confessions of a Closet Carebear: EVE and Real Life (EVE Blog Banter #24)
- The 24th EVE Blog Banter – EVE and Real Life – The Phoenix Diaries
- » EvE Blog Banter #24: EVE and Real Life EvE Blasphemy
- Blog Banter 24: In Real Life « Yarrbear Tales
- The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Alt « the hydrostatic capsule
- Blog Banter #24 – Me « Roc’s Ramblings
- Blog Banter: Personalities in game and out of game
- Fiddler’s Edge: Game Face – Eve Blog Banter #24
- Progression’s Horizon: Blog Banter 24- Synonymous or Anonymous?
- Diary of a Space Jockey – Cozmik R5’s EVE blog: Blog Banter #24: I am me
- EVEOGANDA: BB#24: Real Life & Eve
- Reflections ~ Inner Sanctum of the Ninveah
- Sleepless in Space: Eve Blog Banter #24: A New Age
- More to come….