Go live in low-sec

Apologies for the lack of updates recently. I’ve had some stuff to deal with in meatspace that’s unlikely to subside just yet, but we’ll see.

I want to state first, that I am aware that this will not apply to miners for the most part – generic asteroid belts in low-sec are completely bonkered: Much more risk, and less reward than sitting in a comfy 0.8. The balance is totally out of whack with that one, so I’m saying right now that I won’t try to apply this to miners.

Go live in low-sec for more varied gameplay. At first it may not be obvious. Its a well-known fact that the agents in low-sec dish out better rewards and isk, but what else is there to do? Well, for a start, the exploration sites are much richer, and if wormholes float your boat, there’s a much higher chance of you getting a decent class 3 than if you were grinding away in Dodixie or wherever.

Also, there’s better static complexes. You don’t need anything amazing to run a 2-3/10. I lived in a nice little 0.2 system for about 18 months, and there were 2 static complexes within two jumps that respawned roughly every 1h 40m. Just casually running these in an assault frig or interdictor netted me about 100-200m a week for virtually zero effort – and you could make a whole load more if you were dedicated. Yes, there were other people wanting to do the same. Yes, you had to be quick off the mark after DT to establish respawn times. Yes, you could (and will) get shot at: so shoot back!

“But there pirates, and probers, and loot thieves – oh my!” This is a complaint I hear a lot. For the most part, pirates can be avoided in day-to-day life. Unless they get bored, 90% of them will be camping chokepoints into/out of low-sec, which is why Amamake, Bosena, Hagilur, and whatever non-Minmatar equivalents have such a bad name for it. In some cases its unavoidable. Taking Amamake as an example: its loaded with agents. The pirates know this as well as any learned mission runner, which is why its garnered the nickname of ‘Amagankme’. As a rule, I advise against such ‘honeypot’ systems, since you are near-guaranteed to get jumped on by ne’er-do-wells at various points when you are totally unprepared for it.

So, what else was there? Ah yes, loot thieves. You have them in high-sec as well, they just nick your salvage rather than your loot. That’s (probably) about 50% of the loot value for the entire mission anyway. If someone does that in low-sec, shoot the bastards. Simple.

That leaves us with probers, which are a bit like loot thieves with teeth – they don’t want your loot or wrecks, they want your shiny faction or t2 mods once they’ve blown you up and (optionally) made you cry. Rarely they will ransom you like run-of-the-mill pirates, and frequently they have prober-alts who are very good at finding you for their mains to kill. Directional scanner is your friend, for obvious reasons.

So the risk is high sometimes, and you will at somepoint lose your ship. You aren’t flying anything you can’t afford to replace anyway though… Right? Its good practice to assume (at least a nagging feeling in the back of your mind) that you’ll lose your ship on each mission – it cushions the blow if you do, and reassures you if you don’t. If you can afford to lose your boat in high-sec, you can afford to lose it in low-sec as well. The difference is you might lose it in an actual fight rather than to some really poor AI. I know I’d rather be beaten by someone who thinks and analyses rather than targets and sets to orbit. Its embarrassing.

Preparation

Preparation is half the battle. Scope out the local inhabitants. If there’s good agents in the system, check out who runs missions based on their standings, then ask them if there’s an alternate-local channel where friendlies can chat. It might not seem like much, but if you can coordinate a group of mission runners who actually pay attention to local and their scanners, you can sometimes catch the probers at their own game – setting traps and scanning them down as well. If there isn’t such a channel, make one yourself, and slowly bring people in that you know are there to make isk (without killing other peeps) like you.

Once you have this channel, you can use it for passing intel, as well as forming up impromptu fleets when running missions if you’re unsure. This allows you all to warp to member (A) should they suddenly start screaming that there’s a prober on their tail – which of course they’ll have an incling off because they’re using the directional scanner.

Intel is so important in this situation. In low-sec you can suddenly find yourself with many hostiles in local very quickly. This is usually a cyno hot-dropping a fleet for some purpose. Make sure everyone in your channel broadcasts something like “friendly cyno” when they are bringing one or more things in so the rest of the inhabitants don’t get spooked.

Take a PVP ship. This one throws people sometimes. You need something PVPable in the area, so when the time comes you’re ready to hop ship into something that you know will do a whole lot better than that shiny mission ship. If you explore as well, chances are you can very easily re-purpose that covert ops frig you use to probe out pirates. I’d advise having a support ship, and a damage dealer. What sort of support is up to you, and may well be worth discussing with your local group.

For the more seasoned players – and this is not really something I advise, I just find it fun to do – Park a carrier in another station in the system: Ideally one with no agents. Its unlikely to be ‘tube-tanked’ by any pirates because they see no logical reason for their carebear prey to be going there. In addition, make a jump clone there if possible. This is fantastic sneaky-ops, because when they think they have you pinned in station, you can hop to the other station, jump in something big and scare the bejesus out of them. They’ve already checked if you’re in station, and they haven’t seen you leave local, so they know you haven’t logged. Lots of fun!

There’s plenty more tips and hints I’m sure. Leave a comment if you can think of any, and if you want more specific advice, see this guide by my friend Mori; From Carebear to Werebear.

Comments for this Post

6 thoughts on “Go live in low-sec”

  1. 10th Mar '10 at 4:18 pm

    Good post with some good tips. I take it you live in lowsec. 😉

    However, you are assuming here that most carreer mission runners want to interact with other players. They don’t. Most are scared out of their minds by the thought of actually meetin and fighting another player in lowsec. All they really want to do is farm their predictable, high paying missions in peace. Human interaction would only slow the ISK making machine. Unfortunately for the residents of lowsec, the carebear will rarely, if ever, enter the realm of the pirate.

    We however are working hard to bring player interaction to the cearbears of EVE.

    • 10th Mar '10 at 11:23 pm

      I’m not sure about this tbh. The time I spent in the alternate-local channel I had set up was very productive. Newer residents (that were already ‘carreer mission runners’ prior to hitting low-sec) would be reluctant, but once they’ve lost a couple of ships to probers, they were quick to get on board with any anti-piracy group that was going at the same time.

      Primarily these groups were for intel more than for counter-attack. Most times it was just about hilighting threats, and analysing risk before making a decision and relaying it to the others. Just because -I- think a situation is too dodgy and decide to dock up didn’t mean any of the others would do the same, but they were at least aware, and that helps a hell of a lot. 🙂

      I actually don’t live in low-sec atm. I did for a fairly long time; enough so that hitting high sec and habitually smashing the directional scanner would make me crap myself briefly. Right now I’m in a cozy high sec system many many LY from anything, because sometimes I just like to lazymode Eve. 😉

  2. 10th Mar '10 at 6:06 pm

    Nice post. I like your style. Low sec is great. I’ve certainly made quite a bit myself running static plexes, and agree, exploration can make some solid isk too. And of course, fun pew pew.

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    10th Mar '10 at 6:25 pm

    I take issue with your calling the choke-point campers pirates. A real pirate puts some effort into hunting his prey and doesn’t just sit on a gate ganking haulers.

    Also, its worth getting into converstaions with the real pirates in your neck of lo-sec. they may be willing to work out a deal where by you pay them a monthly fee (usually quite reasonable) and they set you to blue and don’t hunt you. Yes its a protection racket but, come on, they are pirates.

    • 10th Mar '10 at 11:10 pm

      Good points, and I like the idea of the protection racket. At the time I was in an alliance that had a strict policy of never paying ransoms or anything similar. Additionally they actively hunted any local pirate groups, so it would just never have happened, sadly.

  4. 10th Mar '10 at 7:49 pm

    Lowsec has a lot going for it, especially for traders and explorers (and sometimes manufacturers). I don’t run too many missions out there anymore, but certainly radar site exploration follows similar principles. And once you’ve lived in W-space for a bit, lowsec exploration is cake.

  5. 10th Mar '10 at 4:18 pm

    Good post with some good tips. I take it you live in lowsec. 😉

    However, you are assuming here that most carreer mission runners want to interact with other players. They don't. Most are scared out of their minds by the thought of actually meetin and fighting another player in lowsec. All they really want to do is farm their predictable, high paying missions in peace. Human interaction would only slow the ISK making machine. Unfortunately for the residents of lowsec, the carebear will rarely, if ever, enter the realm of the pirate.

    We however are working hard to bring player interaction to the cearbears of EVE.

  6. 10th Mar '10 at 6:06 pm

    Nice post. I like your style. Low sec is great. I've certainly made quite a bit myself running static plexes, and agree, exploration can make some solid isk too. And of course, fun pew pew.

  7. 10th Mar '10 at 6:25 pm

    I take issue with your calling the choke-point campers pirates. A real pirate puts some effort into hunting his prey and doesn't just sit on a gate ganking haulers.

    Also, its worth getting into converstaions with the real pirates in your neck of lo-sec. they may be willing to work out a deal where by you pay them a monthly fee (usually quite reasonable) and they set you to blue and don't hunt you. Yes its a protection racket but, come on, they are pirates.

  8. 10th Mar '10 at 7:49 pm

    Lowsec has a lot going for it, especially for traders and explorers (and sometimes manufacturers). I don't run too many missions out there anymore, but certainly radar site exploration follows similar principles. And once you've lived in W-space for a bit, lowsec exploration is cake.

  9. 10th Mar '10 at 11:10 pm

    Good points, and I like the idea of the protection racket. At the time I was in an alliance that had a strict policy of never paying ransoms or anything similar. Additionally they actively hunted any local pirate groups, so it would just never have happened, sadly.

  10. 10th Mar '10 at 11:23 pm

    I'm not sure about this tbh. The time I spent in the alternate-local channel I had set up was very productive. Newer residents (that were already 'carreer mission runners' prior to hitting low-sec) would be reluctant, but once they've lost a couple of ships to probers, they were quick to get on board with any anti-piracy group that was going at the same time.

    Primarily these groups were for intel more than for counter-attack. Most times it was just about hilighting threats, and analysing risk before making a decision and relaying it to the others. Just because -I- think a situation is too dodgy and decide to dock up didn't mean any of the others would do the same, but they were at least aware, and that helps a hell of a lot. 🙂

    I actually don't live in low-sec atm. I did for a fairly long time; enough so that hitting high sec and habitually smashing the directional scanner would make me crap myself briefly. Right now I'm in a cozy high sec system many many LY from anything, because sometimes I just like to lazymode Eve. 😉

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